In the 1984 film they're teenagers... Maybe they were afraid adults wouldn't take this jingoistic propaganda seriously if it the freedom fighters were kids. The nationalism and racism in this is disgusting.
>>150672269 They want to look like the good guys and fighting the good fight is one way to show that. But you can't do that by invading another country so having the big bad people come and attack poor little murica that only wanted to do the right thing is the answer
The first one was awesome and i keep watching it, but this, this looks like a good way to revive it i like it, and actually shut up if you dont know who are those actors, cmon josh peck, may dont have lot of xp but he is awesomonly good, chris, no saying everybody know about em, Josh hutcherson, one of the best young actors, so shut up, this one looks great
>Enemy army invades >They shut down the McDonalds >No one can refuel >We take to the streets and start clapping at them >It isn't working >We clap harder and start cheering USA USA USA >They begin shooting at us >We are mowed down in a hail of bullets, clapping, and patriotic cheers
The far west and east will probably be easy pickings but once they hit the mid-west they going to have half of their forces dead before they even fire at US soldiers. Seriously, every ten houses you come across at least 4 got a freaking bunker arsenal that can arm a local militia.
>>150673509 The Germans had a hard enough time fighting armed farmers which were the main Russian force on the Eastern Front, if Russians rolled in their Elite units from farther east stationed to defend against Japan, Germany would have been fucked.
Stalingrad was nothing but a big fluke in the War, and was secured of any weak individuals which Stalin ordered.
Russians were being mowed down daily in Stalingrad by German machine guns, and not to mention the amount of death caused by officers. Now lets get to the Upper hands of the Russians throughout the war, and why they have such a streak and teared into Berlin.
1) They were fighting on their soil, this gave them an advantage not only because they wanted to kick out the Germans, but also because they had local knowledge. This knowledge of the forests and marshes allowed them to forage for food, and to find ways through difficult terrain that the Germans did not know. 2) They had superb machinery the T-34 was probably the best tank of the war, not because it was technologically better - the Germans would win that race, but because it was simple, and because its sloping armour offered better protection than similar straight armour. It was also easy to manufacture, easy to repair in the field and was built in huge numbers. They also had superb aircraft, such as the IL-2 and the Yak-1, again built in vast numbers. 3) Supply. It is easier to supply an army in your own country. The Germans had to send spare parts all the way from the factories in Germany - in some cases over 1500 miles. The Soviets did not have this problem. The German supply lines were strained to breaking point at Stalingrad. 4) The weather, not just the winters - both sides had to endure them. But the Soviets were used to the heat of the Soviet summer and the cold of the winters.
>>150674030 5) Political Leadership. Hitler tried to micro-manage battles. Telling his commanders exactly what he wanted them to do, even though his information was often very out of date, and riddled with optimistic lies. Stalin did this early in the war, but soon realised his military limitations, so he set up the Soviet High Command - the Stavka. The Stavka was the only place in the whole country where someone could have a heated disagreement with Stalin and live to tell the tale. 6) Military leadership. Stalin was very lucky in that he had some of the finest military minds on his side. Zhukov, Chuikov and Konev were geniuses. They were the decisive factor in many of the battles with the Germans, overcoming the odds to give Stalin the victory. 7) The Soviet people. The Soviet people had endured a tough two decades before the war, with the country almost on a military footing in its drive to industrialise. This enabled them to endure unimaginable hardships, and to accept the privations of war. 8) Information: The spies Richard Sorge - based in Tokyo and the spy "Lucy" - still unidentified - but based in the Nazi High Command - provided excellent, up to the minute information. This allowed Stalin's commanders to know what the enemy was going to do, almost as soon as the enemy knew it themselves.
And lets not forgot, Germany was a powerhouse fighting two front wars.
They hard soldiers split up everywhere all over the world in unnecessary places.
>>150674159 >efficiency Yeah, no. Stalin was an idiot who rose to power by murder and manipulation. Most of the soviets and communists fucking hated him. He wont because of sheer manpower. That's it. He sent fathers and sons by the thousands to die because he sucked at military tactics. He also sucked at economics, which is why his hard retarded system came crashing down.
>>150674310 >you can't be immoral and intelligent at the same time Pro tip, morality and intelligence don't go hand in hand in many cases. Maybe once you grow up and meet the real world and the complex mess of ups and downs that is life you will realize this.
>>150674665 They wouldn't even make it to America. I'm not American and don't particularly like America but best Korea wouldn't have a chance. The South Koreans would notice that they were moving troops and inform the Americans. The Americans would send out their aircraft carriers to intercept the North Koreans army and they'd all be killed before they set foot on American soil
>>150674665 They have hundreds of invasion tunnels running into different parts of South Korea, actually. The problem is that if they did invade, they probably wouldn't be able to sustain themselves in the war that would soon follow.
>>150674030 >3) Supply. It is easier to supply an army in your own country. The Germans had to send spare parts all the way from the factories in Germany - in some cases over 1500 miles. The Soviets did not have this problem. The German supply lines were strained to breaking point at Stalingrad.
No, his stupidity stems from his shitty economic systems and military tactics. My point is that he didn't know shit about winning a war with cunning or tactics, so instead he just brutishly flung soldiers after soldiers at Germany like an idiot.
America is the most brainwashed country in the world and they don't even know it. Is there anyone in that country that even thinks for themselves and doesn't just follow what the market or te media tells them?
>>150674310 >Most of the soviets and communists fucking hated him. He won because of sheer manpower. So you are retarded, because you have to be to contradict yourself this much. >He also sucked at economics, which is why his hard retarded system came crashing down. Communists had to build up tens of thousands of villages and towns obliterated by the Germans and the whole industry while trying to maintain union in any way possible and while having to fund military development so as to pose as a force that doesn't let USA itself move all imperialistically against the Soviets as it did with South America. Meanwhile USA was unscathed by the war, infrastructure standing, industry standing. Meanwhile Soviets also had inherent shitty geography and climate. Meanwhile you can't at the same time rebuild whole cities and fund a vast military machine to strike at least some balance against USA without economically dying in the long run. Doesn't matter what system Soviets were under, if they were Democracy, Capitalism, Communism, Socialism, anything, it would have gone the same way you uneducated idiot. You can't build thousands of cities that you HAD to do and mainting military might at the same time, but still they had to. It is a complex thing, the fact that they managed to stand as long as they did is a miracle in itself.
>>150676327 Well that depends how you look at it. Stalin cared about the country more than the people in the country. He was willing to harm his own people to move the country forward, but in doing this he made them a superpower.
If you disregard the whole holocaust thing Hitler was actually a great leader. He introduced some great laws, including a law that banned smoking in public that we've only seen recently in other countries. He was a very charismatic and intelligent man. But yeah, the holocaust.
>>150677128 Yet he made what was left of them, boys and old men die above his bunker when he knew the war was already lost. And Stalin stayed in a beseiged Moscow when he actually had places he could of went, they were both tactical decisions to keep morale up, not a sign of empathy or benevolence.
>>150677719 Probably the whole raving lunatic who wrote a book on removing Juden thing, and the holocaust being done on such a sclae it would be impossible for someone with their nose as far up the militaries arse as Hitlers was not to have known about it.
>>150678046 Actually they send planes first, gained the aerial advantage and then sent tanks and troop transports in before the enemy had time to react. There's a reason he took France, Belgium, The Netherlands and Poland so quickly
>>150678042 That's one reason why Kursk is considered such a turning point, Stalin had wanted to press the attack but listened to his generals on digging in, and Hitler basically manhandled his leaders into the attack. The outcome gave Stalin confidence in his generals so he lay off and let them do their thing more, and Hitler blamed them and tried to micromanage even more.
this jusy reminds me of a film i watched on sky a few months back http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_KhErNyiq8 Tomorrow, When the war began. basically an Australian version of this and instead of Nort Korea, it's China
>>150680010 No they didn't. This wasn't the western front of WWI. And while we're at it they didn't send soldiers in without weapons either, they actually tended to be shorter on manpower than equipment.
>>150680143 The army had been reorganised and had competent leadership by 1943, which is when they started pushing the germans back. Many of the generals in the army were disloyal to stalin, but as usual he went completely crazy.
>>150680490 Keep in mind in Communist Russia you were not considered a person, you had no rights , you are a product of the state hence the state owned you and could do with you whatever it wanted.
Russia did not have a lot of equipment or supplies and what it did have were scarce and unreliable. what it did have a lot of was manpower and they were not afraid to lose that.
Quite often unarmed or lightly armed men would be thrown into battle many without weapons on the basis as one man fell another would pick up his weapon. To ensure that the men advanced machine guns would be set up to mow down any who retreated.
Generals did not care, all steps would be taken to ensure mother Russia was not defeated even if it meant killing the entire Russian population " gloriously" to do so.
Go away with your Enemy at the gates and cod argument, child.
>>150680905 Because it would be a waste of resources, and the world is already getting fed up with their shit as it is. MORE war crimes could drive other countries (namely russia and china) to attack and wreck our shit.
>>150680905 >>150680948 Also because the international community doesn't really like it when you go invading countries, even if it is Best Korea. They got away with Afghan/Iraq because people still cared about 9/11.
>>150680981 Why do people still think this is a good idea? This is a hard retarded thing to do. Think about it for a second. Banning guns is NOT going to get them off the street. Criminals and maniacs will still have guns and if they don't they'll buy them from the black market which is extremely accessible. It really would only take guns out of the hands of law abiding citizens. It's a widely used argument, yes. But only because it's true. I'd love to live in a world without guns but at this point, it's not possible. Banning them would only make things 10x worse.
>>150681250 Those same countries didn't have many guns in circulation to begin with. You're missing the point. America has a fuckhuge amount of guns in circulation, and therefor a huge black market for said guns. You're not taking everything into account here.
>>150681186 It's not as simple as just being able to aim and fire a weapon. Someone who has spent their lives in a desert is going to be a much more capable guerilla than your average American gun owner who needs a mobility cart to get to Wallmart.
>>150681461 It's good that the rest of the world thinks we're all fat idiots. That way, when they actually do try to invade us, they'll be caught off guard and get their shit rocked. Stay ignorant, guys. Stay ignorant.
>>150681045 >>150680981 >Some army is strong enough to cross the oceans and defeat the US Army on home soil or at least put them on the defensive >They're somehow threatened by shitty fat idiots with shotguns and rifles
Unless the 2nd Amendment lets you own an air force and modern armored vehicles, it's not going to mean much.
>>150678478 The Dutch were completely helpless against the Nazis because their weaponry was extremely outdated and their only method of defense was rendered useless because the Nazis used paratroopers.